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Episode 29: Forensic Files

Updated: Jun 28, 2020

The murders of teenage lovebirds. Familial DNA. Bombshells from the defense. Exclusive Forensic Files details. All that and bloopers in today’s episode!

30 years ago, a young couple left Canada to run an errand in Washington. They would never return home. This week, Alisha tells the story of Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg and how their murders made headlines in the world of DNA cases. We’ll also speak with Rachel Forde, the public defender assigned to the man accused of committing the crimes. What she has to say might just change your mind as to whether this is a closed case or not!

The forensics keep going as Alisha and Josh interview Nancy Duffy and Bill Camp, the executive producer and narrator, respectively, for the new Forensic Files II on HLN. Learn all about their process in telling the stories we all love and how they are bringing Forensic Files into the 21st century!


Tanya and Jay
Lettre sent to Jay's family
Jay and Tanya posing with Jay's father's van
Snapshot DNA Phenotyping vs Talbott

William Ear Talbott II

Episode Guests







Rachel Forde

Snohomish Country Superior Court











Narrator, Forensic Files II












Nancy Duffy

Producer, Forensic Files II







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I just listened to this episode and am horrified by the public defender suggesting that the sex was consensual. Was there ever any evidence that the victim had contact with the murderer in the 7 to 10 days before the crime? She was in Canada! I'm sorry, but that is absolutely disgusting and she should be ashamed of herself.

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I thoroughly enjoyed this episode particularly the interview with the Forensic Files people.

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The one thing the defense attorney said that I can’t get past is that the seminal DNA can live up to 7-10 days in the vagina/underwear. So, you’re saying that she didn’t wash her underwear or her vagina (or have sex with her boyfriend) in a whole week? Not likely. It obviously was fairly fresh to be found there. Just saying...

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